2017 GP Skate Canada Short Dance

[LittleLotte29]

Yep, about two hours! Could be a lunch break. Or a TV break in Canada?

I don't know but it's almost half past midnight here In Poland, a tiny little bit too late for lunch

 

[Violet Bliss]

Ben likes H/D calls it strong and hot. Says they live their programs - so emotionally invested that they get lost in program and mistakes creep in. Also buttery , clean , confident. I liked the Latin feel of this more than W/P. Too long in lift. I loved it. Battle of the blonds with W/P.

Only the blonds?

 

[GGFan]

Is this an aberration or are W/P really back in the conversation for a medal? I don't think their PCS will be quite this high at other competitions.

 

[TontoK]

Why they will kill the frech?If w/p got here almost 78 , french would get here over 80

V/M and P/C are the best two teams in the world currently.

Of the two, V/M are MILES ahead. I knew when V/M returned, the French would be shoved off the top of the podium.

The only team that could provide a proper challenge for V/M would be Davis and White in their prime.

No current team is even in the conversation.

That's only my opinion, of course. Others are entitled to their own incorrect views.

 

[GGFan]

V/M and P/C are the best two teams in the world currently.

Of the two, V/M are MILES ahead. I knew when V/M returned, the French would be shoved off the top of the podium.

The only team that could provide a proper challenge for V/M would be Davis and White in their prime.

No current team is even in the conversation.

That's only my opinion, of course. Others are entitled to their own incorrect views.

I think Tessa and Scott kept the conversation open with their FD. We'll see how it develops but I do not think it was a wise choice by them.

 

[Chemistry66]

It's probably for an extended lift, which means they did the lift for a second too long (6 secs is the lift time)

No, that would say "Extended lift"

Madi and Zach got a time violation. Here's the video. They started moving around 0:08/0:09 and ended at about 3:10/3:11. That would put them at 3 minutes and 1 second at the shortest, which is over the time limit of 2:50+/- 10 seconds (so 2:40 to 3:00)

 

[Mrs. P]

No, that would say "Extended lift"

Madi and Zach got a time violation. Here's the video. They started moving around 0:08/0:09 and ended at about 3:10/3:11. That would put them at 3 minutes and 1 second at the shortest, which is over the time limit of 2:50+/- 10 seconds (so 2:40 to 3:00)

Yeah, I edited my post after looking at the protocals.

 

[Purv]

V/M and P/C are the best two teams in the world currently.

Of the two, V/M are MILES ahead. I knew when V/M returned, the French would be shoved off the top of the podium.

The only team that could provide a proper challenge for V/M would be Davis and White in their prime.

No current team is even in the conversation.

That's only my opinion, of course. Others are entitled to their own incorrect views.

I know how it works, but theres FD. And canadians only competed in Canada this season. And french got 78 in Finlandia already .If there will be no more difference than 2,1.5 points ,then could be the winners.

 

[Anyasnake]

No, that would say "Extended lift"

Madi and Zach got a time violation. Here's the video. They started moving around 0:08/0:09 and ended at about 3:10/3:11. That would put them at 3 minutes and 1 second at the shortest, which is over the time limit of 2:50+/- 10 seconds (so 2:40 to 3:00)

...Are you joking ?

I'm not going to lie. W/P were great. But I felt H/D were better.
Question for the ages : is there really a 5-point difference between W/P and V/M ? For THIS performance, today ? I would go with way more.

 

[TontoK]

No, that would say "Extended lift"

Madi and Zach got a time violation. Here's the video. They started moving around 0:08/0:09 and ended at about 3:10/3:11. That would put them at 3 minutes and 1 second at the shortest, which is over the time limit of 2:50+/- 10 seconds (so 2:40 to 3:00)

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Jedi]

I think Tessa and Scott kept the conversation open with their FD. We'll see how it develops but I do not think it was a wise choice by them.

I agree. I think it is game over and the French will win. V and M have not done well in the fs against the French and relied upon a good lead in the SD. That no longer is there. So the French are the faves. THe rules do not mark down the fact PC use the same kind of freeskate. I like V and M but I have a strong feeling the French have the OGM.

 

[labgoat]

Only the blonds?

Someone said W/P were a bit vanilla. Just wanted to point out both girls were referred to by Ben as smooth and sensual. The Latin stereotype is the fiery brunette. Nice to see an alternative for the fair haired gals. Which blond do you prefer is a matter of taste. No slight to Andrew or Zachary who are both awesome as well.

 

[TontoK]

I know how it works, but theres FD. And canadians only competed in Canada this season. And french got 78 in Finlandia already .If there will be no more difference than 2,1.5 points ,then could be the winners.

Ice is slippery. Point taken.

But I think that if everyone skates their best, the gap between V/M and P/C is larger than the gap between P/C and the teams fighting for bronze.

 

[Ice Diva]

V/M and P/C are the best two teams in the world currently.

Of the two, V/M are MILES ahead. I knew when V/M returned, the French would be shoved off the top of the podium.

The only team that could provide a proper challenge for V/M would be Davis and White in their prime.

No current team is even in the conversation.

That's only my opinion, of course. Others are entitled to their own incorrect views.

Don't count the French out -- they are incredible, and it's early in the season yet. IMO D/W could never challenge the V/M of today - only the French have the talent and beautiful skating to do that!

 

[Anyasnake]

Can we NOT go V/M against P/C and vice-versa when ONLY ONE of them skate and NOT the other ? We'll see at GPF and the Olympics because scores difference are meaningless UNLESS you compete against one another. Check the PCS scores, the range of it, and the levels. Let's go back to Skate Canada please :thumbsup:

 

[Purv]

Ice is slippery. Point taken.

But I think that if everyone skates their best, the gap between V/M and P/C is larger than the gap between P/C and the teams fighting for bronze.

Only in SD

 

[labgoat]

I feel some baggage was shed for both W/P and H/D. What a great rivalry.

 

[Kutien]

1	Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR	CAN	82.68	1	video
2	Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE	CAN	77.47	2	video
3	Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE	USA	76.08	3	video
4	Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ	ESP	64.34	4	video
5	Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER	USA	63.10	5	video
6	Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD	RUS	62.60	6	video
7	Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS	CAN	57.77	7	video
8	Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS	GER	56.41	8	video
9	Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV	POL	55.92	9	video
10	Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR	TUR	54.74	10	video

 

[SnowWhite]

I agree. I think it is game over and the French will win. V and M have not done well in the fs against the French and relied upon a good lead in the SD. That no longer is there. So the French are the faves. THe rules do not mark down the fact PC use the same kind of freeskate. I like V and M but I have a strong feeling the French have the OGM.

Um what? That happened all of one time. They competed against each other three times last season, and V/M won 2/3 FD and all the SD. They lost the FD at Worlds with a mistake that lowered their GOE and PCS at least a bit, and possibly the level as well. The difference was 3 points. V/M had 2.46 fewer GOE points on that element than P/C, so they would likely have been basically even without the mistake. And the French make mistakes more often than they do. Nothing has shown us that P/C have some big FD advantage. Can P/C win they gold? Yes, but the idea that V/M are way behind in the free is inaccurate.

 

[Anyasnake]

Top 3 teams all have Pst level 4

AND : top 5 have cleared the pattern. Now that's nice to see.