On the Ice
- Sep 13, 2020
Russia’s Sergei Voronov announced his retirement from competitive skating in September. The 33-year-old leaves the sport with no regrets.
I'm glad he has no regrets,Sergei deserves that, I'll miss him though! He was one of a kind and I loved his style.Russia’s Sergei Voronov announced his retirement from competitive skating in September. The 33-year-old leaves the sport with no regrets.www.ifsmagazine.com
I'm really going to miss him.Russia’s Sergei Voronov announced his retirement from competitive skating in September. The 33-year-old leaves the sport with no regrets.www.ifsmagazine.com
Pardon me, but I disagree with what you are expressing, which may not be a criticism in your eyes, but it comes across very much like a putdown. There's no necessity to like J/C and their skating nor to think they could have been in a position to win the Olympics in France, but to suggest they "could end up near the bottom of the top ten," is a very dismissive comment. They certainly would not belong there on merit after all the strides they made, and after all the influential style and movement aesthetics they brought to their skating, that became their signature over the last several seasons of their career.I never meant to suggest it was impossible they could win gold. But they had said after teh last olympics it was year to year. And yes they could win gold but it is also potentially they could end up near the bottom of the top ten. Vanessa is NOT Aliona. She isn't even a Duhamel - she doesn't have their grit and determination. Yes she is very strong but not like those two ladies. Its not a criticism. Not everyone is a Savchenko
^^ This. Vanessa's determination is quietly and beautifully expressed in her skating and also in the way she would always cast their past challenges in a way that gave her hope and optimism for another day and another result.Thanks to the skating gods for Vanessa's abounding grace, determination and courageous battle to carve out a successful career in this difficult, and very political sport.
I know people are passionate about their beloved skaters. Please don't take it personally; everyone has their opinion. Grit, talent, ability, fierceness whatever Vanessa's make up while has the potential for gold also cold be at the botto of the top ten and she herself knew she might not skate on to Beijing. We have seen gritty skaters Stobova, Kavaguti, Knerim, Moore-Tower and of course James. It is hard to have the success of Aliona or even Megan. Not everyone will have that success. It's like saying so and so is special - if everyone is special then no one is special if that makes sense.
Okay, let's move forward if we can.
I heard recently that a lower level U.S. pair who some fans may not be familiar with have reached a decision to try and skate for another country. I'm stoked to hear that they are making this effort because I enjoy watching them skate. I could place this discussion in U.S. pairs, maybe it belongs there. But IMO this is more about a switch (not a partner switch but a country switch). The skaters are Joshua Santillan and Jessica Pfund. She has a parental citizenship connection to Switzerland. Here's what they had to say on their blog:
I applaud Josh & Jessica for taking this decision and explaining it to their fans. I would have to go back and look at U.S. Nationals to see what they are talking about in terms of scoring. I think the judges actually gave them a break on a difficult lift that started out shaky, because they managed to hold it and persevere. I'm glad they feel good about the performances, but to my recollection, Josh fell on a sbs jump in the fp. I don't recall where they ended up landing in both programs and overall. They may have a point in some respects, because judging is not just about what you do on the ice, but also about a number of other factors including past reputation, expectations and politics.
U.S. fed has a problem releasing them for what reason though? Apparently, they have to sit out this season, and will push forward with their plans. I support them all the way, and I hope everything works out for them. Maybe even Lambiel can give them some pointers!
I am sorry if my views was taken as insulting but I think it is also clear there are very passionate fans and it is hard if someone says something to the contrary or even slightly contrary Regardless James and Cipres have retired. The issues with Cipres I won't even touch it seems nothing like a minefield. They are gone competitively. I think she is on Battle of the Blades in Canada which is a huge feat.Everybody has their own unique brand of special in life and in athletic competition. That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it should be! On any given day, favorites can falter and talented but lightly regarded competitors can perform lights out.
All fans see different things in different skaters. But when you have someone as talented and exciting as Vanessa & Morgan have been together throughout their career, and especially over their last 3 seasons, I hate to see them continue to be dismissed for their talent and skating accomplishments, with 'bottom of the barrel' assessments. Saying that a top contending team like J/C might have a battle to achieve a gold medal or to get on the podium is not the same as snarking that they would probably place no better than 'bottom of the top ten,' especially when they left that perennial spot designation several seasons ago by virtue of talent and hard work. When Duhamel/Radford struggled a bit after their back-to-back wins at Worlds, no one suggested they were no better than 'bottom of the top ten.' Checking D/R's career and talent, I don't think they were a superior team to J/C in every aspect. In fact, J/C were good enough to beat D/R at Autumn Classic in 2017, and in other segments of competitions.
I condemn harmful behavior by anyone, and there's no excuse for Morgan's reprehensible actions. It's sad in my view that J/C were continually looked down upon by some fans and by many judges for years prior to the idiocy of Morgan engaging in victimizing a minor. His actions surely led to J/C's retirement, since there had been every indication they hoped to compete through 2022 in order to make it to Worlds in France before calling it a career. Sigh, it's not to be.
I'm not trying to change your views. I'm just sharing my own.
I hate to sound so negative here.....I admire her very much as a skater..except for her lack of emotion.....and she was in shape and doing beautiful triple triples in March. But you have to wonder if she just didnt want a trip back to the Olys for its own sake. Not immoral of course.....and, as she stated, she has other opertunities now that she graduated.....I wish Polina well. I am not going to lie I do not think she realistically was coming back. I am sure her fans may have been more positive. But she is so smart youknow she will pick up in some area and amaze us.
We all know of many skaters who have skated for countries with no personal real connection to. Here are a few. Mostly one half of pairs. Others, like Keegan Messing, do have a real connection to Canada, Still others, like Tanith, became US citizens. I see no reason that J and J can not skate for Switzerland. It they were a top US pair and were going to skate for a country with no connection just go to the Olys or ?, well, we can talk. Let them go.I have two thoughts: 1) woohoo, this is an awesome choice for them and I'm thrilled! Now maybe we'll get to see them compete more often.
And 2) WOW the US fed's decision. What an utter slap in the face, and I'm so angry for them. It seriously would cost the fed NOTHING to release them. They've haven't competed internationally in two years and (sorry, Josh and Jessica) it's incredibly unlikely the fed planned on using them much in the future. Ugh! And that whole little bit of, "Well, we'll release you if you pay back every cent we've ever spent on you." :rages into the void: