IMO, the rhythm dance should focus on particular technical elements of dance and let the teams be compared for their technical skills along with the interpretation. If "movie" is the theme then all sorts of technical elements will be used and, obviously, to the strength of that particular team. I would like this portion of the competition to be a bit more comparative.
2024-25 Rhythm Dance theme
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It's the Piano Guys cover, same as Young You used a few seasons ago, which doesn't really count to me (too pop - LOTR is less hippie elves and more Wagnerian Nordic mythology).
I was too young to watch the movies when they came out so I read the book instead, as well as the History of Middle Earth stuff that was later edited by Tolkien's son to become the published version of the Silmarillion. So I can be a bit pernickety about Tolkien...
The only LOTR skating programme I've seen so far with a vibe faithful to the source material was Todd Eldredge's 2002 Olympic long programme. It helps that it used the original soundtrack, which is one of the best things about the movie trilogy (I try to forget about the existence of any post-2004 film adaptations
)ETA: I think Eowyn/Faramir, or Eowyn/Eomer for a sibling team, might make an interesting character-based theme for a free dance. I agree with posters above that epic movie soundtracks like this are definitely unsuitable for a rhythm dance. Just bring back the ballroom theme/pattern dance section please...
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The Hobbit, skating as Bilbo and Smaug
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TSL posted it (and they did so unironically). They sometimes get inside info, but sometimes post incorrect info. Hard to know if it's real.
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They also posted pictures from a PowerPoint presentation that looks more fleshed out than just a throw-away theme rumour, and includes a map of the Senior pattern steps (Paso Doble)...
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At the same time, I could very easily make that PowerPoint in 20minutes. Yes, it's definitely possible it's an isu PowerPoint, however there isn't a verification. Some of the rules seem very nonsensical, almost as if you'd ask ChatGPT to generate rules.They also posted pictures from a PowerPoint presentation that looks more fleshed out than just a throw-away theme rumor, and includes a map of the Senior pattern steps (Paso Doble)...
As for paso doble, that's been an open secret for months. Every senior ice dancer I know has known about Paso since mid January, somebody could have made the PowerPoint as a joke...
That been said, it could be legitimate. And there is a decent chance it is. And thats what I'm afraid of.
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My thinking is that it is one of those pitch meetings where the ISU is like "Jim from USFS, what is your RD theme?" and he's like "Dance Party, now look at my ideas for the pattern dance as outlined on this terrible PowerPoint!" and then Todd from Skate Canada is proposing "Sad Weepy Ballad Cover with a Golden Waltz pattern".
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What annoys me is that we’ve now had increasingly silly themes for the last few seasons—first Street Dance, whatever that was, and then “the 80s.” I would say we are overdue for one of the classic themes.
I would even accept Yankee Polka— a classic dance, but you can certainly have fun with it, if that is what the ISU wants to do.
The other thing that aggravates me no end is that teams tend to try to balance out these “fun” RD choices with boring, flowy FDs to “show their range,” so neither of their offerings is really compelling.
I would even accept Yankee Polka— a classic dance, but you can certainly have fun with it, if that is what the ISU wants to do.
The other thing that aggravates me no end is that teams tend to try to balance out these “fun” RD choices with boring, flowy FDs to “show their range,” so neither of their offerings is really compelling.
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Go Todd !
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when they said 80s theme... i was excited. In the end, so many teams went for 80s rock instead of 80s dance... and ruined it.
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80s dance often featured rapidity.
Modern ice dance offers no incentive (and actually negative incentive) for rapidity. Its about long, flowing edges, with a focus on slow precision. Which is nice.
But rapidity no longer seems to exist, or be rewarded in ice dance (in the way that it was prevelent within the 2000s and before). And without rapidity, in my opinion half of these themes don't work well.
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The rumored Twentieth Century Dance Party theme is so vague.
It could range from the Charleston to a mosh pit. And I'm not sure how you cram a paso into any of that.
It's like "Street Dance" where skaters could justify just about anything. And that was a mess.
I was initially intrigued by the 80s theme, but that was also a bust, IMO.
It could range from the Charleston to a mosh pit. And I'm not sure how you cram a paso into any of that.
It's like "Street Dance" where skaters could justify just about anything. And that was a mess.
I was initially intrigued by the 80s theme, but that was also a bust, IMO.
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Shhhh, you will give them ideas!!!
(Honestly, isn't that the subtheme of both singles disciplines, given the number of them we get?)
But for the rhythm dance with the Golden Waltz pattern, it needs to be a sad weepy ballad cover in 3/4 time.
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what does that even mean?
with the difference that "Street Drance" is an actual style, the other stuff is...what exactly? ah! i got it!
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Where to start with what's wrong about all this?
Firstly, the "80s" showed that a cultural theme doesn't work when you do not define it very clearly. The 80s did not exist, and when a team did something slightly more different (Lopareva/Brissaud) it was already unrecognizable for many in how far it was 80s. So we got almost only Anglo-American top charts of the 80s, apart from the Russian domestic scene, where the choices were a bit different. I saw this tweet from Weaver now, talking about women's agency or what not as what the 80s were about - well, maybe for you. Like I said my first thought was Tchernobyl. So, when the music is supposed to be recognized by the majority of a worldwide or at least northern hemisphere audience /judging panel, you will get no diversity at all in a topic which, by its words, should not only be about a very limited kind of pop culture.
Also, women's agency is not a sportive category. At all. Also, ice dance/skating per se is not really the place for social movements and such. It's often a cringe festival, and so we hardly got any programs that addressed anything, but, of course, Top Gun etc. with the macho man.
Dance party 20th century is not a theme. It is so open you could just stop having themes at all. I think the goal of this, if it's all true, is having upbeat more current music for the next, Olympic year - and this one is just the rehearsal year.
If you want upbeat current music to gain a certain audience, name a range for beats, name "c and d major" or something, say "songs mustn't be older than 2020" or such and that's it. At least those are clear categories where you know whether you fit the criteria, even if you choose songs that nobody in the US has ever heard of. Dance party is nothing, there is no definition for that term other that you have to dance, which of course you have to do in ice dance.
Of course there are some steps and technical restrictions outlined but I'm not sure how all of that is connected and what Paso doble has to do with the dance party and if that's even Paso doble...
I did find an RTL (German trash tv) playlist though for Let's Dance for Paso doble and it includes the Pirates of the Carribean, The Mask of Zorro and Malaguena. Well, you can play what you want at your dance party, right? 
I'm just waiting for the André Rieu "dance parties".
Firstly, the "80s" showed that a cultural theme doesn't work when you do not define it very clearly. The 80s did not exist, and when a team did something slightly more different (Lopareva/Brissaud) it was already unrecognizable for many in how far it was 80s. So we got almost only Anglo-American top charts of the 80s, apart from the Russian domestic scene, where the choices were a bit different. I saw this tweet from Weaver now, talking about women's agency or what not as what the 80s were about - well, maybe for you. Like I said my first thought was Tchernobyl. So, when the music is supposed to be recognized by the majority of a worldwide or at least northern hemisphere audience /judging panel, you will get no diversity at all in a topic which, by its words, should not only be about a very limited kind of pop culture.
Also, women's agency is not a sportive category. At all. Also, ice dance/skating per se is not really the place for social movements and such. It's often a cringe festival, and so we hardly got any programs that addressed anything, but, of course, Top Gun etc. with the macho man.
Dance party 20th century is not a theme. It is so open you could just stop having themes at all. I think the goal of this, if it's all true, is having upbeat more current music for the next, Olympic year - and this one is just the rehearsal year.
If you want upbeat current music to gain a certain audience, name a range for beats, name "c and d major" or something, say "songs mustn't be older than 2020" or such and that's it. At least those are clear categories where you know whether you fit the criteria, even if you choose songs that nobody in the US has ever heard of. Dance party is nothing, there is no definition for that term other that you have to dance, which of course you have to do in ice dance.
Of course there are some steps and technical restrictions outlined but I'm not sure how all of that is connected and what Paso doble has to do with the dance party and if that's even Paso doble...
I did find an RTL (German trash tv) playlist though for Let's Dance for Paso doble and it includes the Pirates of the Carribean, The Mask of Zorro and Malaguena. Well, you can play what you want at your dance party, right? I'm just waiting for the André Rieu "dance parties".Similar threads
