2025-26 Russian Junior Grand Prix - Stage 4 - Kazan

[Jumping_Bean]

The 3Tw is still a bit of a work in progress (I think they didn't have one at the start of the season), but a big combo and big throws. Not everything worked out today, but this is truly the most promising of Andrei's many partnerships.

 

[Mathematician]

A couple interesting surnames. Bregey doesn''t sound Russian.

Bregey sounds French, like Bregier, or something.

Gude or perhaps Guder (?), pronounced Goud-eh per the Russian phonetic, must be Germanic.

 

[flanker]

Very nice skate by Kira/Ilya, just one mistake on jumps. But as I said I would rather wish a new program for them. Not that this one is bad, it was appropriate last season but now I would appropriate something more mature.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

A couple interesting surnames. Bregey doesn''t sound Russian.

Bregey sounds French, like Bregier, or something.

There's also Bregy, which is a Swiss last name. And Bergey, which is the misspelling of another Swiss last name.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Really good skate, well done

 

[Mathematician]

There's also Bregy, which is a Swiss last name. And Bergey, which is the misspelling of another Swiss last name.

We had an Arnet at the last stage which is also Swiss.

 

[flanker]

A couple interesting surnames. Bregey doesn''t sound Russian.

I personally think it's a surname coming from possessive adjective.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

A few errors again, but better than last time. Sofia is not happy, but it wasn't that bad.
I wonder if the expectations they are putting on themselves are actually causing some of these errors

 

[flanker]

Guseva/Ovchinninikov quad Twist!

 

[Mathematician]

I personally think it's a surname coming from possessive adjective.

Could you elaborate?

 

[flanker]

Silly mistake during choreo sequence but otherwise very impressive, they obviously want to challenge Shesheleva/Karnaukhov.

 

[Mathematician]

Oh no, another senseless tumble. Rinky needs to behave himself today!!

 

[Jumping_Bean]

The fall was so unnecessary I actually can't believe that she's 13 and he's 17 - She looks so much tinier.
(This is not quite as shocking as that one baby Chinese pair with an age gap of two years and he's absolutely towering over her.)

 

[Mathematician]

The fall was so unnecessary I actually can't believe that she's 13 and he's 17 - She looks so much tinier.

I believe this 4Tw's time is limited. She won't be so small for long.

 

[flanker]

Could you elaborate?

In Slavic languages surnames coming from adjectives are quite common. My knowledge of Russian is not big enough to explain it on that but in Czech for instance there are surnames based on location, by the city or so, so when there is for instance city of Hradec, you can find a surname "Hradecký" (belonging to/coming from Hradec). It doesn't has to be a municipality but also some area, let's say "Black Mountain", Černá hora, so someone from there has surname "Černohorský".

Or it can be an allusion to some feature of parents, here we have example in Maiia Khromykh. Khromyi is lame in Russian, but it's not like the bearer of that name is lame himself, but you can think that it is a person whose parents were "lame", so Khromykh is like "belonging to lame" (like those lame who live there over the river, I presume the genesis of that surname was something like that".

Bregei I suspect it could come let!s say from "bereg", bank, so someone who lives near a bank of a river, lake or so.

 

[Mathematician]

In Slavic languages surnames coming from adjectives are quite common. My knowledge of Russian is not big enough to explain it on that but in Czech for instance there are surnames based on location, by the city or so, so when there is for instance city of Hradec, you can find a surname "Hradecký" (belonging to/coming from Hradec). It doesn't has to be a municipality but also some area, let's say "Black Mountain", Černá hora, so someone from there has surname "Černohorský".

Or it can be an allusion to some feature of parents, here we have example in Maiia Khromykh. Khromyi is lame in Russian, but it's not like the bearer of that name is lame himself, but you can think that it is a person whose parents were "lame", so Khromykh is like "belonging to lame" (like those lame who live there over the river, I presume the genesis of that surname was something like that".

Bregei I suspect it could come let!s say from "bereg", bank, so someone who lives near a bank of a river, lake or so.

Yea there's bereg or beregi but I think it's a stretch to get Bregay from it. Usually the root word doesn't change at all. Also -ay or -ey aren't Russian suffixes. I think it's more parsimonious to imagine it as a French/Swiss accretion. Bregier, Breger, etc... We already had Arnet anyways and Gude is clearly Germanic.

 

[flanker]

Yea there's bereg or beregi but I think it's a stretch to get Bregay from it. Usually the root word doesn't change at all. I think it's more parsimonious to imagine it as a French/Swiss accretion. Bregier, Breger, etc... We already had Arnet anyways and Gude is clearly Germanic.

The change through time, altering a letter or dropping it is common,then variations coming from the same root are created too. Or changes from adjective to nouns are also common.

But what I have written is just a guess.

 

[flanker]

In the meantime, girls have started their first warm-up.

 

[Mathematician]

The change through time, altering a letter or dropping it is common,then variations coming from the same root are created too. Or changes from adjective to nouns are also common.

But what I have written is just a guess.

I would just need examples of any other surname with a modern Russian root-word changing this much and adapting such an obscure suffix.

 

[Mathematician]

Am I the only one who doesn't like this gimmick of singing in multiple languages?