It is terrible to realize that for all these teams who have been working hard towards the Olympics yet the medals can down down to a caller. I thought this new system was suppose to fix things! Hard to think that Piper and Paul may get pushed out of the medals at the Olympics once again due to a caller.
2025 GP Finlandia Trophy Rhythm Dance
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This protocol is crazy. It looks like panel called the opening choreo for FBC as ChSt and their actual ChSt which was at the end did not count at all. Weird.
Which element? I missed that.
Lucky you! Mine jumped to speed skating.
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because the synchro, the speed and ice coverage. the break in Piper's nixed the level but they remained in synch, they didn't lose speed and kept ice coverage.
So does the Controller call the levels or the Tech Specialists?
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he wasn't in the panel in China
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I can't believe I'm a FBC defender now but this call for their ChSt is so ridicolous I can't believe it happened and won't be corrected. Even their planned program content says they have it at the end. Also, they did practices with judges/panelists, what is that suppose to mean?
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Do you know how the GOE is factored on elements ?
The Choreographic steps have a completely different GOE factoring than other elements because it doesn't have any levels. So it's up entirely to the judges here to evaluate what was put on the ice. The French made a mistake on theirs because it got called at a place in the program that it isn't supposed to be. So that means that what was counted as their first element didn't have enough in it to be rewarded. Now, there are technicalities here about what is supposed to be done for the CHRS which means that FBC need to make sure they will not make that same mistake again because another panel could also call their first bits of choreo as their sequence.
So, back to the main point I was going to make : twizzles are a level element. The Goe factoring is much lower. So in that sense, you cannot compare GOEs from twizzles and CHRS because their respective scoring isn't done at all the same way.
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Gui is already out on IG bitching about the scores 
Edit: It was in the mixed zone interview, not on his personal insta.
Edit: It was in the mixed zone interview, not on his personal insta.
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I believe, and I am no expert is that their choreography went from across the ice rink and had some elements signalling that they were doing CHRS. So it fooled the so-called experts on the TP
I was surprised it wasn't corrected when the true CHRS happened. Very surprised.
But clearly, in ice dance, one rule hold true : you cannot attempt something twice... So if you miss a turn, it's gone... and here, apparently the TP felt they already had performed an element that looked like CHRS so they cannot do it again
. I am not expert but this is what I am thinking based on years of watching crazy ice dance calls.
shawn is american, thats all. USa dont want higher scores for FBC
How can this possibly happen? Don't skaters provide the list of their elements before the program?
How can you make a mistake on an non-element such that the tech panel thinks it actually was an element ?!
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Did you miss Allison Reed & Saulius Ambrulevicius using it? They are wonderful!
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Wait. Where Is @NoNameFace and the flower crowns? I was glad to see Piper get a stuffie, albeit a tiny one.
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I rewatched it and I'm even more amazed, they didn't even start close to the boards, they did one movement and that's it. Crazy.I believe, and I am no expert is that their choreography went from across the ice rink and had some elements signalling that they were doing CHRS. So it fooled the so-called experts on the TP
I was surprised it wasn't corrected when the true CHRS happened. Very surprised.
But clearly, in ice dance, one rule hold true : you cannot attempt something twice... So if you miss a turn, it's gone... and here, apparently the TP felt they already had performed an element that looked like CHRS so they cannot do it again
I am not expert but this is what I am thinking based on years of watching crazy ice dance calls.
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I answered this a couple posts above. It's possible if what they did on the ice "signalled" the element... For instance, start from one end of the ice and go to the other with choreography including this or that.
Now, do I think it was the right call ? NO.... but it's not the first time nor the last time things like these happen. There are certain rules in ice dance, for instance, who to signal the end of the pattern step with the helicopter turn.. or having a break in the non touch steps...
teams have to follow all these rules and sometimes, a technical mistakes happens and callers make some calls..
We know that this call was wrong because we have seen this dance and the CHRS is at the end... but somehow, this panel saw otherwise.
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Last week he wasn't very nice to CPom, maybe because she didn't have citizenship yet.
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