Ladies LP

[Medusa]

Yuna's mistake is only popped 3 sal jump. It is not a obvious mistake.

Today Mao didn't do the second 3A(fall) and 3-2 (2lo was downgraded). It is a obvious mistake, too. But Mao's PCS is nevertheless over Joannie's. (Mao got 62.88/ Joannie 62.8) Joannie taken a little mistake that 3Lz stepout at LP.

She didn't just pop a jump. Joannie just popped a jump by doubling the Loop, Chan just popped a jump by doubling the Loop (not a Canadian jump this week :scratch - but it didn't interrupt the program, it didn't stop the flow. Kim opened the jump half-way, landed awkwardly with both feet and came to a complete stop. I would call it obvious - in contrast to Joannie's double Loop or Ando's downgraded Loop. Of course Asada's mistake was even more obvious, but I didn't say anything to the contrary in my post.

 

[salt03]

She popped a jump. She started the motion and even pushed off the ice. How's that not an obvious mistake? It was more than apparent that there was supposed to be a 3sal there. Get over it. I don't know why you need to bring up Mao's 3A-face plant from last year. Everyone knows that.

ITA, Miki had a great skate yesterday. It was my favorite performance of the night. I believe that's the first time IMHO in this quad that Miki has had the skate of her life.

Of course yuna's 3 sal popped was a mistake. But I mean that is not 'obvious' mistake. (Other skaters also did some mistake like popped 'a' jump, or stepped out 'a' jump or fell down.) But Yuna's mistake was only 1. I think that mistake didn't give a influence to fall PCS.

Mao's case is just example about mistake-PCS.

 

[salt03]

She didn't just pop a jump. Joannie just popped a jump by doubling the Loop, Chan just popped a jump by doubling the Loop (not a Canadian jump this week :scratch - but it didn't interrupt the program, it didn't stop the flow. Kim opened the jump half-way, landed awkwardly with both feet and came to a complete stop. I would call it obvious - in contrast to Joannie's double Loop or Ando's downgraded Loop. Of course Asada's mistake was even more obvious, but I didn't say anything to the contrary in my post.

After popped a 3 sal, yuna got into her spin immidiately. I think that mistake didn't interrupt the program.

Mao's case is just example about mistake-PCs relations.

 

[enlight78]

I think the Womens was the only event were the winner didn't have two clean programs.

 

[Mathman]

Kim is of course the deserved winner. But I don't know what the judges are getting at with those huge PCS scores. There was a very obvious mistake in that program, but the PCS she got were like "6.0" in presentation.

I think judges have always done that. It one skater is the clear winner and is skating last (or anyway, after her main rivals), they throw out the 6.0's/high PCSs just to hype the event and please the crowd, and also to avoid the controvery that always surrounds a close contest.

By the way, in the NBC broadcast both Michelle Kwan and Dick Button did their share of Kim-gushing. Michelle said that Kim was "dominant" and basically in a league of her own. I think they were basing their opinions on the whole week of skating, including the practices.

 

[amateur]

I think the Womens was the only event were the winner didn't have two clean programs.

no - The FS of the German Pair, that I just now rewatched, incidentally, was marred by him falling in the footwork sequence

 

[amateur]

By the way, in the NBC broadcast both Michelle Kwan and Dick Button did their share of Kim-gushing. Michelle said that Kim was "dominant" and basically in a league of her own. I think they were basing their opinions on the whole week of skating, including the practices.

I'd be very curious to know what Kwan had to say about Rochette, if anything. Someone earlier posted Button's comments, which I found interesting

 

[bekalc]

I'd be very curious to know what Kwan had to say about Rochette, if anything. Someone earlier posted Button's comments, which I found interesting

She said earlier in the week that if Mao Yu-na make a mistake there's Joannie Rochette. Button did say before the short that Mao and Yu-na were 1-2. But hey if mistakes are made...

But yes Joannie is awesome too.

 

[fumie_fumie]

I'd be very curious to know what Kwan had to say about Rochette, if anything. Someone earlier posted Button's comments, which I found interesting

She didn't say anything about Joannie.

 

[R.D.]

You're right. They would have got 3 spots. I just wonder who will go to the olympics for the usa next year.

Actually, IIRC, Japan is the only country who will send 3 women skaters to the Olympics. Everyone else either has 2 or 1.

Two things surprised me. The first was Kostner completely falling apart. That was so weird...usually she's her strongest at this point in the season. The second, and bigger thing, was Mao Asada not medaling!! Wouldn't have predicted that in a million years.

Very happy for Rachel. Solid debut. 5th place is a lot to be proud of and I think she'll get better from here. And good for Alyssa for redeeming herself, but still, as I suspected, it was too much ground to make up and she's out of the top 10, so only 2 Olympic spots for next year. And, strangely enough, she might have cost herself a trip. I hope the two next year turn out to be Zhang and Flatt (or Nagasu and Flatt). As for everyone else, I expected so- Yu Na, of course, rightfully won by a mile. No, make that 5 miles.

It was weird switching from the watching the Universal Sports feed (for the first half) to watching the NBC coverage. Although NBC had a far superior picture, they cut out too many K&C's (I guess to fit in all the commercials) and they did a really bad job of keeping viewers up-to-date with the current standings (until the final skaters). They didn't even show a list of standings after the SP! I know had I not watched the earlier segments, I'd have been completely lost.

MK wasn't as bad as I expected. She did look nice, though- HD treats her well. I think she'd become smoother and say more insightful things as she gains experience in this field. I think having her and Dick Button on created a nice balance, though. If she doesn't "come back" (a 95% probability) I wonder if they'll have her back at the 2010 Nats.

 

[R.D.]

She didn't say anything about Joannie.

And IIRC she wasn't asked anything about Joannie

 

[yelyoh]

I was surprised that Mao didn't make the podium, not based on the skates done but rather on expectations. I wonder how she will retool for next year - the big one. I really like YuNa but I thought the PCS were high. Joannie did enough and I agree with Dick about her talent and lack of confidence in it, though this should help. I have liked her so much since her Firebird. I think that was her first year as a senior. Miki was a big suprise. She skated with complete belief and abandon. Rachel came through and we Americans on the board should be proud of her. And yes if Alissa had skated the SP the way she did the LP there would be three US women going to the Olys next year. The prospect of a returning Sasha and Michelle makes me happy but I am also interested in seeing any number of other US women go Oly so I am conflicted on that count. Not that it's a given that SC and MK would go much more likely than not.

Other thoughts are for: Elene G. So happy she pulled the latter part of her season together. I think Elaine Z is a good coach for her. Kosner probably got a Fusar-Poli stare or two or more from Speedy. I really felt for her. And always good to see Fumie. The young woman from Russia is very cute and jumps well but I'm not sold on her yet.

Finally IS THAT IT? The FSing season is just too short. I always look forward so much to World's and then poof just like that, it's over. At least the four major tennis tournaments last two weeks. Oh well.

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Congratulations to all the medalists !!!

So happy for Miki !!! Standing ovation. Wow . What a great comeback !!!

Overall, my favorite performances were Miki’s SP and also Yu-Na’s SP.


Miki's SP was exquisite, and Yu-Na's SP was on fire.


Yu-Na didn’t seem to skip a bit from her SP to her LP. Another fiery performance. Although I like her SP program and music better. But this LP was great too.

I thought Mao did good job too, and I liked her red costume. Only one fall.

Flying under the radar at this World’s was Elene Gedevanishvili. So happy she finally was able to show more of what she’s capable of. She’s a natural artist, with good dancing talent, and both her programs were fun with interesting choreography.

 

[chuckm]

I think the Womens was the only event were the winner didn't have two clean programs.

Yu-Na's SP was a masterpiece, however.

Joannie Rochette wasn't clean, either. She had a hop on the landing of the 2Lo in her 3-jump combination, she doubled the loop and her solo lutz had a wonky landing. Her performance wasn't as smooth and confident as her 4CC effort.

 

[Kwanford Wife]

finally a worlds worthy of the title...

Kim was awesome and she also reminds me of Kwan... she just brings something special to the ice.

Rochette - yay for her! good job.

Miki - I actually stood up and cheered at home. I just love to watch her skate. She's got the jumps - now she just needs to bring the fire.

Mao - well she fell and still doesn't have a lutz - what do you expect? and this is probably good for her. It will re-ignite her passion for winning and make her work harder.

As for the US ladies - well Michelle (who looked awesome by the way) summed it up best: work harder. skate faster. be more consistant.

All in all a MUCH better worlds this year than last... Let's hope we continue this momentum next year.

 

[volk]

ROCHETTE was overscored. I don't think she deserved 2nd place!

 

[cosmos]

Kim is of course the deserved winner. But I don't know what the judges are getting at with those huge PCS scores. There was a very obvious mistake in that program, but the PCS she got were like "6.0" in presentation. And the next time she doesn't get those huge scores she got for PCS in the long program - she will give a nasty interview that she doesn't understand why they gave her so much at worlds and less this time? It's what happened with Chan, and after thinking about it for a few days - the question is what were the judges thinking, giving him about 80 the entire season, except for the sudden 89 at 4CC?

I don't get Asada's very low PCS. Her mistake was a bit more obvious, but in the end she and Kim landed about the same: Asada a 3A, two 3F, a 3T and a 3R. Kim landed a 3F, two 3Lz and two 3T. Plus Asada has better spins and better extension, that should count for something.

Yuna's mistake was refleced in the tes. You seem to think tes and pcs are basically same. Isn't pcs supposed to be a different thing?

 

[SXTN]

hmmm.... i would have had mao in second or third... it was a good performance.. but nevertheless i would prefer if she goes back to aratunian... his strategies were better to my mind... she should have put the 3F-2l-2l in the second half as well if she doesn't try a 3-3.... kind of stupid the whole program, but...

i can't understand how judges can give almost 64 points to ando for pcs? she has no posture, no personality on the ice and was only preparing for jumps the whole time...
btw, 68 points for kim is also a bit exaggerated....

Kostner..... she is driving me insane. if she manages to land her jumps one day she could be ahead of kim to my mind... her speed and flow is amazing.. plus she has charisma on the ice ( in contrast to ando...)... does anyone know if she gets psychological support?? because she should... such a waste of potential....

lepisto's score was a total joke.... but she landed the lutz... i was like: " what , laura lepisto landing a 3 lutz?" haha

gedevanishvili is great. i could hug her, she is so cute ;-)

i am also pleased with meier.... gorgeous program!!!!!

 

[fourclover]

Agree I think Mao was nervous too. But I give her credit for yet again follow through in a big way after a fall like she did 2008.

Seriously I see no passion in Kim. And Im Korean myself.

How can you not see any passion is Yu-na? I actually think Yu-na always goes overboard with her facial expressions and suggestive body language with Scheherazade that she should've toned it down a bit.

I thought Mao was beautiful too - love her dress - and actually prefer her neutral facial expression to Yu-na's but when it comes to passion Yu-na seems to exude it more than Mao.

 

[amateur]

Joannie did enough and I agree with Dick about her talent and lack of confidence in it, though this should help. I have liked her so much since her Firebird. I think that was her first year as a senior.

Rochette's Firebird program was in her 3rd year as a senior. She made an interesting comment in the CBC fluff piece, saying that up to this year, she had been considering the Firebird season her best, and had been struggling to try to "live up" to the success she had with that, instead being more forward-thinking in trying to create new and better moments.