2015-2016 Programs by Discipline

[StitchMonkey]

Even for the traditional way, Nam is 17. The age changes on Tết Nguyên Đán (Lunar New Year). My family doesn't use the old way not unless it involving with holoscope or any superstitious. Nowaday, most people just go with western way.

Anyway, is it really matter?

Wow. My first post is about Nam. Cool.

It may not matter but it is still cute trivia. I rather like learning little tid bits like this about other cultures so I found the comment to be fun and welcome. I like being shown in a friendly way different ways to view the world and this is a great example. I like looking at the little differences in cultures like this, it fascinates me to no end. Part of what I like about figure skating is that the community is so global and it provides a nice doorway into little pieces of other cultures much like what we have here.

 

[Ophelia]

I do find it interesting he's skating to the Killing Fields, wonder if it has significance for his family.

That's Cambodia, not Vietnam.

 

[Mrs. P]

That's Cambodia, not Vietnam.

I know this. Still, it was part of a region wide conflict in Southeast Asia. In addition, there were quite a number of ethnic Vietnamese people living in Cambodia at the time and many of them were affected.

In fact, I mentored a student a few years ago whose parents owned a restaurant. While they came to the U.S. from Cambodia, the father was ethnically Vietnamese and the mother was Vietnamese/Chinese.

 

[Alchamei]

Tbh, I really enjoyed his program! It is great! And the shirt ia not that bad.

 

[Meoima]

Even for the traditional way, Nam is 17. The age changes on Tết Nguyên Đán (Lunar New Year). My family doesn't use the old way not unless it involving with holoscope or any superstitious. Nowaday, most people just go with western way.

Anyway, is it really matter?

Wow. My first post is about Nam. Cool.

Welcome. But are you sure?

Here in East Asia, or at least the place I am living, we automatically add 1 more age as we count the time we stay in mother's belly as well. The change of age is on the first day of lunar new year, but don't forget 9 months in mother's belly.

For example I am still 27 according to Western calendar (it's not my birthday yet). But my mum counts that since it past the 1st day of the lunar calendar, I am older 1 age, then she adds 9 months... To her (and to most relative) I am 29 (and my mum always says "You're almost 30").

By our logic, Nam was already 17 by the 1st day of Lunar Calendar. And by adding 9 months he is 18 by now.

Anyways, in East Asian culture, the day of birth isn't as important as the day of death.

 

[el henry]

Welcome. But are you sure?

Here in East Asia, or at least the place I am living, we automatically add 1 more age as we count the time we stay in mother's belly as well. The change of age is on the first day of lunar new year, but don't forget 9 months in mother's belly.

For example I am still 27 according to Western calendar (it's not my birthday yet). But my mum counts that since it past the 1st day of the lunar calendar, I am older 1 age, then she adds 9 months... To her (and to most relative) I am 29 (and my mum always says "You're almost 30").

By our logic, Nam was already 17 by the 1st day of Lunar Calendar. And by adding 9 months he is 18 by now.

Anyways, in East Asian culture, the day of birth isn't as important as the day of death.

Completely OT, I find the discussion of age fascinating .... but I don't know that I want to be closer to 60 than I already am.

In any event, Nam is still a young man, and his shirt is something that I (a woman of a certain age) would wear. With a camisole. But the shirt isn't as bad as Adam's black mesh strip creation. Why, Adam, why?

 

[Meoima]

Completely OT, I find the discussion of age fascinating .... but I don't know that I want to be closer to 60 than I already am.
In any event, Nam is still a young man, and his shirt is something that I (a woman of a certain age) would wear. With a camisole. But the shirt isn't as bad as Adam's black mesh strip creation. Why, Adam, why?

By our logic you should add 2 more ages. yeah I know it's hard. My mom goes around saying that "My kid is almost 30" and she makes me feel so embarrassed.

About the shirt, yes, that shirt is something I would find in my aunt's wardrobe. And Mura's shirt Is the same. And Adam... oh that much ultra C through. Don't tell me he learned it from Plushy.

 

[Alba]

Anyways, in East Asian culture, the day of birth isn't as important as the day of death.

Fascinating. Why is that?

 

[AsadaFanBoy]

Fascinating. Why is that?

Without speaking for anybody else, but in my cultural experience after you die, you gain "powers". You have the power to influence things on this plane and help your family and also, when you die, all debts owed you must be repaid. If not, and if you are bitter after dying, you may become a 'ghost' and curse the people who wronged you or who are indebted to you.

Of course I am only half Chinese and depending on how you look, half Chinese doesn't count for being Chinese. At least, that's what Chinese relatives have said...in addition to Chinese people who don't know me and insist authenticity is blood-based.

Also the Chinese side of my family is from Southeast Asia...and Chinese culture differs depending on who is practicing, personal meaning, family traditions (even if two different families are from the same street in America, that doesn't mean they have the same traditions), religion, politics, etc. so I am speaking from my experience of being half Chinese with that Chinese origin being from the diaspora.

 

[Alba]

Without speaking for anybody else, but in my cultural experience after you die, you gain "powers". You have the power to influence things on this plane and help your family and also, when you die, all debts owed you must be repaid. If not, and if you are bitter after dying, you may become a 'ghost' and curse the people who wronged you or who are indebted to you.

Of course I am only half Chinese and depending on how you look, half Chinese doesn't count for being Chinese. At least, that's what Chinese relatives have said...in addition to Chinese people who don't know me and insist authenticity is blood-based.

Also the Chinese side of my family is from Southeast Asia...and Chinese culture differs depending on who is practicing, personal meaning, family traditions (even if two different families are from the same street in America, that doesn't mean they have the same traditions), religion, politics, etc. so I am speaking from my experience of being half Chinese with that Chinese origin being from the diaspora.

WOW! Thank you very much.

I might sound a bit childish but that is so cool. I think I like your mentality/tradition about death a lot.

 

[Meoima]

Without speaking for anybody else, but in my cultural experience after you die, you gain "powers". You have the power to influence things on this plane and help your family and also, when you die, all debts owed you must be repaid. If not, and if you are bitter after dying, you may become a 'ghost' and curse the people who wronged you or who are indebted to you.

Of course I am only half Chinese and depending on how you look, half Chinese doesn't count for being Chinese. At least, that's what Chinese relatives have said...in addition to Chinese people who don't know me and insist authenticity is blood-based.

Also the Chinese side of my family is from Southeast Asia...and Chinese culture differs depending on who is practicing, personal meaning, family traditions (even if two different families are from the same street in America, that doesn't mean they have the same traditions), religion, politics, etc. so I am speaking from my experience of being half Chinese with that Chinese origin being from the diaspora.

Thank you for explaining it. My father often said "It doesn't matter when the person was born, what matters is when they die, we have to remember." And in East Asian culture, birthday sometimes is overlooked. Some never celebrated birthday. But the death anniversary, well all members in the family have to remember.

 

[actualrealliveanna]

Thank you for explaining it. My father often said "It doesn't matter when the person was born, what matters is when they die, we have to remember." And in East Asian culture, birthday sometimes is overlooked. Some never celebrated birthday. But the death anniversary, well all members in the family have to remember.

This is very interesting, thanks to you and AsadaFanBoy for sharing! I don't know very much about East Asian culture but I'm very happy to have learned this little bit of information

 

[frozenmargarita]

Welcome. But are you sure?

Here in East Asia, or at least the place I am living, we automatically add 1 more age as we count the time we stay in mother's belly as well. The change of age is on the first day of lunar new year, but don't forget 9 months in mother's belly.

By our logic, Nam was already 17 by the 1st day of Lunar Calendar. And by adding 9 months he is 18 by now.

Of course I'm sure that's how my grandmother counted my age. For the rest of the family we just use western way.

But my logic he is 17 still.

I know this. Still, it was part of a region wide conflict in Southeast Asia. In addition, there were quite a number of ethnic Vietnamese people living in Cambodia at the time and many of them were affected.

In fact, I mentored a student a few years ago whose parents owned a restaurant. While they came to the U.S. from Cambodia, the father was ethnically Vietnamese and the mother was Vietnamese/Chinese.

I get what you mean about the connection between Nam and his music. I think we will hear his reason to choose this piece later on. It might just because his team think it good strategy. Like how many asian girls skate to Mulan. :hopelessness:

And glad to hear from you Mrs. P. Parts of my family migrated to the US too but a bigger parts are Aussie now. I am part of the minority (British clan) but have been living in Hanoi for the last 5 years.

It may not matter but it is still cute trivia. I rather like learning little tid bits like this about other cultures so I found the comment to be fun and welcome. I like being shown in a friendly way different ways to view the world and this is a great example. I like looking at the little differences in cultures like this, it fascinates me to no end. Part of what I like about figure skating is that the community is so global and it provides a nice doorway into little pieces of other cultures much like what we have here.

Friendly way is the key I agree with you. Vietnam is very tricky about what's right or wrong based on cultural, demographic and geographic POV. Like I consider Vietnam Southeast Asia not East Asia.

 

[Mrs. P]

I get what you mean about the connection between Nam and his music. I think we will hear his reason to choose this piece later on. It might just because his team think it good strategy. Like how many asian girls skate to Mulan. :hopelessness:

And glad to hear from you Mrs. P. Parts of my family migrated to the US too but a bigger parts are Aussie now. I am part of the minority (British clan) but have been living in Hanoi for the last 5 years.

RE: strategy, I can see how because "The Killing Fields" sounds serious, it would provide a different direction for Nam's style. Sort of like skating to Schindler's List, I guess.

I too have a few family members in Australia. The contingent used to be bigger, but they moved to the U.S. about 15 years ago. That's great you live in Hanoi now. I have yet to go to Vietnam, and I know that Saigon gets a lot of attention, but I always wanted to see Hanoi and its architecture.

Friendly way is the key I agree with you. Vietnam is very tricky about what's right or wrong based on cultural, demographic and geographic POV. Like I consider Vietnam Southeast Asia not East Asia.

Things are different even with the country itself. I know that my dad's tendencies are different from my mom because my dad grew up entirely in the South while my mom came from the north.

 

[frozenmargarita]

RE: strategy, I can see how because "The Killing Fields" sounds serious, it would provide a different direction for Nam's style. Sort of like skating to Schindler's List, I guess.

I too have a few family members in Australia. The contingent used to be bigger, but they moved to the U.S. about 15 years ago. That's great you live in Hanoi now. I have yet to go to Vietnam, and I know that Saigon gets a lot of attention, but I always wanted to see Hanoi and its architecture.

Things are different even with the country itself. I know that my dad's tendencies are different from my mom because my dad grew up entirely in the South while my mom came from the north.

Exactly on point here Mrs. P. The Viet culture is too vast in differentiation to claim what is right and wrong. My family originated from Huế which has their own traditions in many ways. I hope one day you'll get the chance to visit though.

And your point on "strategy" sounds great and way better than what I have in mind. But my love for Nam's spicy want to see him skating as the Engineer from Miss Saigon (I know it sounds cliche). I think the part suits his funny personality.

 

[AsadaFanBoy]

Thank you for explaining it. My father often said "It doesn't matter when the person was born, what matters is when they die, we have to remember." And in East Asian culture, birthday sometimes is overlooked. Some never celebrated birthday. But the death anniversary, well all members in the family have to remember.

as many Chinese people know, when (If they left at all) a person's family left China can have a huge difference on traditions.

For example, the Chinese in Vietnam, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia etc. in Southeast Asia have different ways of practicing their interpretation of Chinese culture. In fact, Chinese identity/culture/status/etc. is difficult to characterize because there are over a billion Chinese people in the world (and that's only counting China, some places have huge Chinese populations) and the way a person writes Chinese is not unified (traditional, simplified, script used just to show pronunciations) and the way Chinese is written is so that a word is completely captured by the written character, and you pronounce the character based on which Chinese dialect you wish to speak.

There's also Chinese from Taiwan and Hong Kong, for example, and Chinese Taiwanese people who have been there for generations have different traditions and interpretations from Chinese people who immigrated due to political instability following WWII. Many people point out that Taiwan at one point made a case for being considered the real China because China's political leadership went to Taiwan.

Anyway, I forgot about the death being important for reasons that aren't superstitious/spiritual. When you remember somebody's death date, you remember their life and what happy moments you shared together. You also reflect on family values and decide for yourself what that person meant to you and what family means to you.

Thanks for sharing meoima

 

[Krunchii]

Welcome. But are you sure?

Here in East Asia, or at least the place I am living, we automatically add 1 more age as we count the time we stay in mother's belly as well. The change of age is on the first day of lunar new year, but don't forget 9 months in mother's belly.

For example I am still 27 according to Western calendar (it's not my birthday yet). But my mum counts that since it past the 1st day of the lunar calendar, I am older 1 age, then she adds 9 months... To her (and to most relative) I am 29 (and my mum always says "You're almost 30").

By our logic, Nam was already 17 by the 1st day of Lunar Calendar. And by adding 9 months he is 18 by now.

Anyways, in East Asian culture, the day of birth isn't as important as the day of death.

Some places also add one year but not to count for the time in the mother's belly but when you are born that is considered your first year alive, then it is your second when your first birthday rolls around and so on, so compared to Western traditions, you would add one year. It's really interesting how there is so much variance heh

 

[silverfoxes]

Artur Dmitriev Jr. RUS

FS (presumably) - The Godfather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlH9lzZTFQw

 

[ice coverage]

Adding Team USA skaters for #JGPBratislava:

Emily Chan
SP Music: "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston
FS Music: "Chopin" by Edvin Martin
http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/profile/emily_chan

Kevin Shum
SP Music: "Invierno Porteño" by Astor Piazzolla
FS Music: "Trio élégiaque in G Minor No. 1" by Sergei Rachmaninoff
http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/profile/kevin_shum

Julia Biechler and Damian Dodge
SD Music: "Close Your Eyes" by Meghan Trainor
FD Music: "Nocturne" by Lucia Micarell and "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Lucia Micarell
http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/team/biechler_dodge

LOL, do Biechler/Dodge win the prize for first use of Meghan Trainor?? ETA: And waltzing to Meghan Trainor, no less. :think:​

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Doris, thanks for all your work on so many labor-intensive threads .

FYI, small typo in Vincent's listing:

Men

Vincent Zhou USA
LP The Goldfather; choreo by Justin Dillon

 

[dorispulaski]

Anna Gordienko MDA
SP The World of Rolex by Lang Lang; choreo by Valentina Mynzat
LP Demo (Letzter Tag) by Herbert Groenemeyer; choreo by Valentina Mynzat

Interesting choices for this JGP J&T Banka competitor.

I did not know Madagascar was in the ISU