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Yikes... I was hoping that he had a very minor injury and was skipping Euros to avoid COVID, but that sounds like it was an actual thing that required time off the ice. I wonder if they will have Mark and possibly Andrei skate the Team Event in that case, assuming they split dance and men. Misha's their best bet at an individual medal, and he needs all the preparation time he can for that segment.
No way they are splitting men, not with everyone who wants/whose coach feels entitled to the team medal. Men are expendable, people have said as much. If the man who has to skate four programs back to back bombs the individual event it's his problem.
 
I am hoping Kolyada recovers and skates beautifully, as he can. I am still sad that they wouldn’t split it between Kondratyuk and Kolyada to reduce pressure and get the best possible result, but Kolyada needs to skate teams and individual. 🥺
 
A commentary by Olga Ermolina:
'Based on the results of the Russian Junior Championships which ended in Saransk, the team won't be formed for the participation in the 2022 JWC in Sofia. The expanded team roster will be announced by February 14. The final version will take into account the results of the RCF which will be held in Saransk in February. Particular attention will be paid to the selection of juniors who didn't show even the last year's level'
 
A commentary by Olga Ermolina:
'Based on the results of the Russian Junior Championships which ended in Saransk, the team won't be formed for the participation in the 2022 JWC in Sofia. The expanded team roster will be announced by February 14. The final version will take into account the results of the RCF which will be held in Saransk in February. Particular attention will be paid to the selection of juniors who didn't show even the last year's level'
What does that mean?
 
Particular attention will be paid to the selection of juniors who didn't show even the last year's level'
Well, that's easy then. Let's send Kovalev and Anisimov who are the only ones among the top 10 who actually improved on last year's score. And let the other guys battle it out at RCF for the third spot. Sounds like a good strategy, doesn't it? This is getting more ridiculous by the minute. :palmf:
 
Well, that's easy then. Let's send Kovalev and Anisimov who are the only ones among the top 10 who actually improved on last year's score. And let the other guys battle it out at RCF for the third spot. Sounds like a good strategy, doesn't it? This is getting more ridiculous by the minute. :palmf:
Omg, it gives me flashback for being told the same exact thing at age twelve that concluded my swimming, lol.
 
Oh, I'm feeling choleric now. I can already see how this will pan out. The guys will give it their all for stupid junior RCF and by the time the important performances at JWC come around ten days later they'll be utterly exhausted and not able to skate to their potential. Enter Rusfed *surprised Pikachu face*: "We have no explanation why the boys performed so badly at the Junior World Championship. In general, men's figure skating is subpar in Russia."
 
I think he stays in AoP. He closed his IG (guess why), but I saw that he thanked his new team for the support. He just needs some time.
What? Closed his IG? What kind of awful comments has Egor received to do that?

Skating fans are almost as bad as RusFed in this case.

Fans: Ridicules skater publicly, online for all to see, embarrassing them and crushing their self-confidence.

Skater goes poorly in next competition.

Fans: I just don't know what went wrong with that guy?!!
 
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A commentary by Olga Ermolina:
'Based on the results of the Russian Junior Championships which ended in Saransk, the team won't be formed for the participation in the 2022 JWC in Sofia. The expanded team roster will be announced by February 14. The final version will take into account the results of the RCF which will be held in Saransk in February. Particular attention will be paid to the selection of juniors who didn't show even the last year's level'
Well... if the Fed wants performances like last year then they better make sure the ice conditions are like last year... even the girls made weird mistakes in Saransk. It's just that whatever the boys do feeds into this confirmational bias (good skates - no recognition/unrealistic saviour narrative, bad skates - hopeless as always).

On the bright side if it was more of an ice issue, maybe the RCF will be a sort of 'redemptive' opportunity. The problem is the short turnaround from team selection to JWC, but hey, what's new? (as Mozalev would know)

ETA: I'm also confused, do the guys who skated senior in the Russian Cup Series (including Kovalev, Yablokov, Anisimov) now have to participate in the junior category for the final?
 
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It's just that whatever the boys do feeds into this confirmational bias (good skates - no recognition/unrealistic saviour narrative, bad skates - hopeless as always).
It's bizarre, were the RusFed this obnoxious during the dark days of Russian ladies skating between 2006 and 2014? I didn't follow skating closely back then so I don't know.

Plus does the RusFed understand physics and the human body? Yes, a lot of Russian girls can do multiple quads now, but they're also very short. The Russian boys who were on the podium at Junior Nats are very tall, consistent quads will be more difficult for them.

Although even been short doesn't seem to help our lads, I'm still sad about Danill S and he's tiny. He had all the goods but it seems not to be. 😔
 
It's bizarre, were the RusFed this obnoxious during the dark days of Russian ladies skating between 2006 and 2014? I didn't follow skating closely back then so I don't know.

Plus does the RusFed understand physics and the human body? Yes, a lot of Russian girls can do multiple quads now, but they're also very short. The Russian boys who were on the podium at Junior Nats are very tall, consistent quads will be more difficult for them.

Although even been short doesn't seem to help our lads, I'm still sad about Danill S and he's tiny. He had all the goods but it seems not to be. 😔
I was just thinking that at this point the number of Russian girls doing senior quads is approaching number of senior men worldwide doing senior quads, so the mindset is simply incorrect—women with certain training are capable of doing quads... it in no way reflects on men negatively.
 
@RemyRose suggested in another thread that the selection pool for JWC could be expanded with Danielian and Vetlugin.

Potential need TES candidate are: Dikidzhi, Belyavskiy and Ugozhaev. Given results, even in my wildest dreams, not Popov…

Kutovoy already said that he would not be competing this season, but with RusFed, who knows?
 
Why would Danielian go back to juniors? This would hurt his reputation. Btw how old is he?
And how is Vetlugin doing? Haven't heard from him in a while...
 
Why would Danielian go back to juniors? This would hurt his reputation. Btw how old is he?
And how is Vetlugin doing? Haven't heard from him in a while...
As olympics and worlds roll around Danielian and even Petya need world standing points if they want to get 2 assignments at senior GP circuit next season so trying to get those junior worlds spot to get those points is not a bad shout. Thats why Japan is sending Shun and Kao to JR worlds even tho both have competed as seniors in GP circuit for the last 2 seasons.

Petya is currently at 22 at world standing list and 15th ISU Season Best Scores list so he is at the very least guaranteed 1 spot at Senior GP but as world and olympic roll around Petya is likely to drop lower in those list, while he still will very likely stay in the top 24 in the ISU Season Best list I dont think he will stay in the top 24 in world standing list as skater like Vincent Zhou, Brendan Kerry as well as Adam fa only need around 200 points that they can get from worlds and olympics to over take him. So to guarantee himself 2 spots next season he needs those world standing points and getting them at Jr worlds is kinda his only choice now.

Danielian is at the risk of not getting a single GP next season as he lies in 44th place at world standing list and 53rd at ISU Season Best Scores. He needs desperately any world standing points he can get. So if he is heathy and his team is smart as well as if the fed allows it he should try and get into the junior worlds team.
 
As olympics and worlds roll around Danielian and even Petya need world standing points if they want to get 2 assignments at senior GP circuit next season so trying to get those junior worlds spot to get those points is not a bad shout. Thats why Japan is sending Shun and Kao to JR worlds even tho both have competed as seniors in GP circuit for the last 2 seasons.

Petya is currently at 22 at world standing list and 15th ISU Season Best Scores list so he is at the very least guaranteed 1 spot at Senior GP but as world and olympic roll around Petya is likely to drop lower in those list, while he still will very likely stay in the top 24 in the ISU Season Best list I dont think he will stay in the top 24 in world standing list as skater like Vincent Zhou, Brendan Kerry as well as Adam fa only need around 200 points that they can get from worlds and olympics to over take him. So to guarantee himself 2 spots next season he needs those world standing points and getting them at Jr worlds is kinda his only choice now.

Danielian is at the risk of not getting a single GP next season as he lies in 44th place at world standing list and 53rd at ISU Season Best Scores. He needs desperately any world standing points he can get. So if he is heathy and his team is smart as well as if the fed allows it he should try and get into the junior worlds team.
WS points don't matter if you have a good SB. Great examples are Kseniia Sinitsyna and Daniil Samsonov. I'm sure Petya will get two GPs. What's more, he's fourth Russian man on the SB list. WS points can only help you if your SB isn't very good (Sofia Samodurova as example).

I can't say that Artur is at the risk. There's just no chance he gets at least one GP next season. The only thing he can do is get a medal at JWC.

If nobody retires and juniors don't get any medals at JWC, I think that Mark, Misha, Andrei, Petya, Zhenya, Makar, Sasha, Dima will get two assignments (well, not sure about Sasha and Dima, but more likely they'll get it).
 
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The thing is, once Russian skaters graduate from juniors to seniors and skate at some serious competitions (Euros, Worlds, senior Grand-prix) they don't go back to juniors. They just don't. Even if it's allowed and they are young enough.
 
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