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2023-24 Canadian Figure Skating

4everchan

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As a Certified Computer Klutz :scratch2: :palmf::bang:, you don't want me to try to move it, but if anyone else more technologically adept would like to try, feel free :)! In my hands, GS in its entirety would probably vanish into a Black Hole forever.
Don't worry, only mods can move posts...but I agree, it would be fun to have this in the Canadian thread
 

NanaPat

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I think I remember David Pelletier talking about Camille Ruest's mother being a coach at a rink where he was training (including while she was pregnant with Camille!). According to Wikipedia, Camille's mother is Édith Lévesque.
 

4everchan

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I think I remember David Pelletier talking about Camille Ruest's mother being a coach at a rink where he was training (including while she was pregnant with Camille!). According to Wikipedia, Camille's mother is Édith Lévesque.
Edith Lévesque would be a coach in Rimouski if my friend google is right, and is indeed the mother of Camille.
 

Sackie

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I was just looking at GP assignments... I feel that Skate Canada should play the game better in ice dance... if they did, Chloe and Brendan may have a shot at qualifying for JGP... if not, they may end up just short.
Well they are not going to come up just short but not even close. They were dumped (as expected) in their 2nd event and are in 6th place after the RD.
 

yyzskater

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Well they are not going to come up just short but not even close. They were dumped (as expected) in their 2nd event and are in 6th place after the RD.
Sorry, can you clarify "they were dumped"? I don't know what this is in reference to (judges, Federation, etc). I have been trying to figure it out but came up with nothing 😂
 

Colonel Green

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Well they are not going to come up just short but not even close. They were dumped (as expected) in their 2nd event and are in 6th place after the RD.
They weren’t dumped. They got almost the same score they got at their first event. It’s a new team, and neither of them were anywhere close to medal contention with their previous partners last year, it’s hardly surprising that they placed behind a number of more experienced teams.
 

4everchan

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ermm.. .Skate Canada needed to send them to a less competitive field where they would have made a better impression. Doesn't help they were skating first either. I didn't watch the whole event but the tech panel was especially harsh. Was it for everyone? Maybe. I haven't looked.
V/B got a very rough score too and low placement and they are not a new team. Again, I haven't been able to watch as I was falling asleep... maybe they made mistake that were costly enough to place them in 10th place.

In general, I tend to agree that our young teams have a hard time in their second events compared to some teams who keep growing their scores. Of course, there could be mistakes and so on, but Brendan and Chloe skated well yesterday. I felt they were better than in all their other outings so far this year, yet their score wasn't impressive, and their ranking, even less so. So I can understand why @Sackie would use the term dumped, in the sense that they didn't receive any favours from the TP/ judges and that their score didn't rise.
 
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yyzskater

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ermm.. .Skate Canada needed to send them to a less competitive field where they would have made a better impression. Doesn't help they were skating first either. I didn't watch the whole event but the tech panel was especially harsh. Was it for everyone? Maybe. I haven't looked.
V/B got a very rough score too and low placement and they are not a new team. Again, I haven't been able to watch as I was falling asleep... maybe they made mistake that were costly enough to place them in 10th place.

In general, I tend to agree that our young teams have a hard time in their second events compared to some teams who keep growing their scores. Of course, there could be mistakes and so on, but Brendan and Chloe skated well yesterday. I felt they were better than in all their other outings so far this year, yet their score wasn't impressive, and their ranking, even less so. So I can understand why @Sackie would use the term dumped, in the sense that they didn't receive any favours from the TP/ judges and that their score didn't rise.
So what should they infer about their international score vs their domestic scores? Unfortunately, I do not understand the technical aspect of figure skating, especially ice dance, enough to know why our teams are scored significantly lower internationally. Because it seems even the Canadian judges that have been on the panels have judged their skaters harsher than at home. Don't these judges monitor the skaters on NextGen? What do skaters do when there is such discrepancies between competitions. Or perhaps it's just general knowledge that they will score that much lower internationally and they are expecting it anyway?

This is a very difficult sport to understand. I feel like the initial learning curve is easy but then to really understand it, it takes a lot of time because I can never guess correctly how skaters will be scored after a skate. 😂
 

4everchan

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So what should they infer about their international score vs their domestic scores? Unfortunately, I do not understand the technical aspect of figure skating, especially ice dance, enough to know why our teams are scored significantly lower internationally. Because it seems even the Canadian judges that have been on the panels have judged their skaters harsher than at home. Don't these judges monitor the skaters on NextGen? What do skaters do when there is such discrepancies between competitions. Or perhaps it's just general knowledge that they will score that much lower internationally and they are expecting it anyway?

This is a very difficult sport to understand. I feel like the initial learning curve is easy but then to really understand it, it takes a lot of time because I can never guess correctly how skaters will be scored after a skate. 😂
I am not comparing international scores to domestic scores. I am comparing JGP circuit scores. It seems that our teams do well in their first event and stall there while other teams see their scores rise in their second event, so the gap between our teams and other teams increase.
 

Jumping_Bean

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Personally, what shocked me is how little StSq levels matter. N/G got two levels higher here than at their first JGP, but that only gained them 0.62 points in BV. That's an incredibly small amount, isn't it?

(They also promptly lost all of that BV increase by losing one key point 🤷‍♀️)
 

4everchan

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Is Maddie the only women in Canada with the TES minimums for worlds currently?
the SP one is tough to get : both Justine and Kaiya are short from the 32 magic number with today's ACI SP... Sara-Maude has the LP one from 4CC last year but not the SP. There is a lot of time and only one spot... but Skate Canada needs to learn a lesson here : send the skaters out to compete. What if anything prevented Maddie from competing at Montreal worlds? Can we ask for a guaranteed host spot? I'd be pissed off if we didn't have anyone available to compete.

Justine got the SP minimum at Ice Challenge 2022, Kaiya the LP one... if that event still counts
 

4everchan

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Catching up on women

Justine was fierce ! Bravo !!!!!

(Javi is coaching ? He is aging well :)
Audrey skating to Pina... made me miss Alaine. There were even some Alaine type moves in there... A good skate
And then, Amanda skating to Maddie's Sp music from the olympics... I guess our Canadian women are trend setters ;)
Kaori is so amazing. I am still made at Skate Canada for messing up the schedule so I don't get to see her from up close live at ACI)

Kaiya's spins have improved !!!!

Overall, very happy with our Canadian women. Great showing !

Maybe Skate Canada will learn that stretching this into three days into the week is not so good... very few people at the rink.. .there were more people are CQÉ....
 

saine

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The ISU TES Stats page counts IceChallenge 2022 as counting for the TES minimums for 2023-24. It lists the event with the highest TES was achieved. Gabby has the SP minimum, but no longer has the LP.

Roman withdrew from Finlandia, I'm not surprised about that.

On the subject of Canadian men and injuries, Corey posted landing his 4T after fracturing his leg in three places near the end of last season.
 
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