2023 Grand Prix de France Men's Free Skate

[4everchan]

France, Germany, Finland, China, Italy and Switzerland for Siao
USA, Japan and Spain for Malinin

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USA judge put Ilia and Yuma first for PCS leaving Adam in 3rd only. USA judge was the only one putting Ilia first in PCS.

 

[labgoat]

on to pairs now

 

[4everchan]

prediction : ilia will bring the quad axel for GPF

 

[nipman]

What a wonderful competitions from those brilliant young men! This really made my day. C’était magnifique, bravo Adam! Tu mérites largement la victoire! Bonne continuation.

 

[16Olympics]

Have to give props to Lukas, too. When he skated I thought, well, the men above him will have to bring it b/c Lukas sure did. With the exception of Stephen, the last flight was a real fight. Poor kid. I hope he gets it together and doesn't give up.

 

[purplecat]

We were treated some amazing jumps today by the men! Makes me sad that this field was so stacked - fourth place Lukas would have won Skate Canada with his score! Top four were all great. Yuma ran out of steam - still not 100% but look out when he is, such pretty skating! Adam was fantastic... just the doubled toe. Adam was always so inconsistent - it's wild to see he has upped his difficulty and yet gotten more consistent somehow! Ilia was wonderful as well - I'm sure he's disappointed but man - over 300 pts again, can't be too down on himself - just a couple wonky landings and of course the short program fall in the steps. Kudos guys!

 

[el henry]

Have to give props to Lukas, too. When he skated I thought, well, the men above him will have to bring it b/c Lukas sure did. With the exception of Stephen, the last flight was a real fight. Poor kid. I hope he gets it together and doesn't give up.

If you are talking about Gogo, I hope he figures out whether he really likes skating and competing. I can't tell, and I am not saying that to be snarky. If he is doing this as a default (I always skated, I don't know what to do if I'm not skating) that's not the best motivation.

I just want every skater, from 25th to first, to be there because they want to be there. If they are, then I am happy.

 

[Ares]

ermmm... Adam's jumping was cleaner here. His presentation better too. Judges will disappoint me probably but to me Adam deserves this title not only on PCS but also on TES.

Yeah, but I'd give Ilia props for improving his presentation quite significantly since his 1st senior season.

 

[YuBluByMe]

Adam was fantastic... just the doubled toe. Adam was always so inconsistent - it's wild to see he has upped his difficulty and yet gotten more consistent somehow!

I remember very clearly just a years ago when Aymoz didn’t make the free skate at Europeans, the general hope was that Siao Him Fa would do enough to salvage the spots. Oh, how times have changed!

 

[Vicky458]

Hm. Well, this is actually my first time seeing Ilia’s free skate this season. I can’t say I see the supposed improvements… or have a desire to see that free skate again anytime soon I agree

 

[RatedPG]

Adam
I was hoping he would win due to PCS and he did. He has the same quads as Ilia, but, better skating skills. A 300+ overall score. The battle between Shoma, Ilia and Adam is so intriguing. This is the most exciting discipline.

Ilia
He skated almost as good as SA. Fall in SP and step out with the 3S made a difference here. Funny that he made a mistake in the one jumping element I wish he would remove. A 2A 2A sequence is worth more points than a eu 3S. Also, why 3S when that can be replaced by a 3F like what Nathan Chen used to do. The flip must be Ilia’s least comfortable jump. If 4A has the proper base value of at least 14-15 points, he could do that as opening element and then add a seq to 3A combo to the 4Lz. It is so unfair that the difficulty of the 4A isn’t there for grabs. But, he is smart to leave that jump out, to make the skating world miss this jump and then perhaps change its base value.

Yuma - I don’t care that the above three mentioned skaters are way ahead from the rest of the pack, this is my favourite male skater. Loved his programs. Despite out scoring Sota and Kao, he needs to climb up to surpass these two, to make the GP Finals. I have to settle for two bronze medals with my fave guy and women (Rion).

Lukas - WOW!! This would have won a bronze and gold, at the last two events. His 4T and 3A are so solid. He could add a 2A to replace a 2T second jump in his combo to get 2-3 more points. He is a solid 7-10 skater.

Camden - love him too. Fifth was not a bad result. Looks solid as the 3rd choice for USA.

Stephen - This was a missed opportunity. But, he kind of showed that he is almost there. While focusing on skating skills, I would get him to practice his triple jumps more. He did enough to show he is the top Canadian man this year, and he just needs a few points here and there to beat athletes like Camden, who will be around 11th-18th at Worlds, if he wants a shot at top 12 standing at Worlds. He earns points from this 7th placement. Will be interesting to see how Wesley does at NHK.

 

[momrk]

Best men's event in a long time. What a treat.

 

[4everchan]

Yeah, but I'd give Ilia props for improving his presentation quite significantly since his 1st senior season.

yes but not up to 9s in PCS. How many years did it take a guy like Brown to get these sorts of scores ? I saw Ilia live at ACI a few weeks ago. He is not by any means a 9s in PCS. (my opinion of course)

 

[Ares]

yes but not up to 9s in PCS. How many years did it take a guy like Brown to get these sorts of scores ? I saw Ilia live at ACI a few weeks ago. He is not by any means a 9s in PCS. (my opinion of course)

Oh, he got 9s? It's egregious indeed.

 

[Vicky458]

Judge 4 gave Yuma 7.75 for Presentation and Ilia 9. I'm really not sure about these judges....

I don’t understand why anyone would give Ilia a 9 in presentation!

 

[Ares]

USA judge put Ilia and Yuma first for PCS leaving Adam in 3rd only. USA judge was the only one putting Ilia first in PCS.

There was a judge who put Malinin 1st in PCS?! He/she needs glasses. I guess being American too was strongly linked to that outcome, lol.

 

[4everchan]

Oh, he got 9s? It's egregious indeed.

yup.. a few judges went there... including the USA judge who placed him first in PCS tied with Yuma, and leaving adam in 3rd place.
ETA I see you saw my original comment about this now... I guess repeating it just reinforces the opinion I have.

 

[Vicky458]

yes but not up to 9s in PCS. How many years did it take a guy like Brown to get these sorts of scores ? I saw Ilia live at ACI a few weeks ago. He is not by any means a 9s in PCS. (my opinion of course)

Exactly! If he is getting 9s in PCS Brown should get 15s!

 

[Vicky458]

There was a judge who put Malinin 1st in PCS?! He/she needs glasses. I guess being American too was strongly linked to that outcome, lol.

 

[SmileHappy34]

Look forward to watch recap tomorrow.
Ilia Malinin had higher yes by a point.
Adam Him Saio had higher PCs by 4.

Great job all.