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Oh, well, the tech panel struggled hard, they gave D/S too low overscoring
so they had to struggle and adjust marks
2024 Skate America Rhythm Dance
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so they had to struggle and adjust marks
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To be fair, the block that put D/S in the lead consisted of 3 judges who gave basically identical GOEs. It included GEO, ISR and CND judges. Which is enough to bump up scores in a tight competion. It's not that D/S are horrendously bad, but they need a push, and they receive it.
There was nobody on the tech panel who overtly had any potential link to Tutberidze as far as I can see, though her client network can be epic.
I can't at all judge the quality of the steps, but scoring indicates that despite absolutely phenomenal visual appeal of Mrazkova/Mrazek, they were not drilled in steps when they did juniors, despite shining in juniors. By comparison, Davis/Smolkin were stuck in Russian juniors till the (then) senior cut-off, waiting till Eteri could dislodge one of the top 3 senior teams (which was a huge coup, but it's a purely Russian coup) and they probably drilled the damned steps in the traditional Tutberidze fashion till they actually can do them when unconscious on broken legs if need arises. That's the only way I can explain the judging without making Tutberidze into something bigger than she deserves to be.
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Interesting question! For once, I wouldn't blame the tech panel for this, the choreo was very borderline when it came to following the requirements of the rhythm dance. Many couples do get away with breaking these requirements, so people forget about them. But also, they change based on rink size (If skate america is an NHL rink, the rules are sometimes not applied).
At first, it looked like Mrazeks broke centreline rules at the beginning, and they came less than 1m in front of the judges before going backwards (almost in the middle of the rink).
If you look here at 50seconds, you'll see: https://youtu.be/97GestZph3g?si=HuUcm5G_Ok_vtkkJ
The tech panel, even knowing this probably wasn't a choreo step, could call it a choreo step, especially if it looked like they were breaking the centreline rule (which is only allowed in midline and choreo step). The mrazeks however didnt execute it to choreo step requirement, so it was an invalid choreo step, so it got no credit and when their actual choreostep was called it was in the system as a repeated element.
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For the current season, the pattern must proceed in a generally constant direction and must cross the Long
Axis of the ice surface once at each end of the rink within no more than 30 meters of the barrier.
- In addition, the couple may also cross the Long Axis at the entry to the Style B Step Sequence (Sr & Jr), at
the entry to the ChRS (Sr), and at the entry to Pattern Dance Elements (Jr).
- Loops in any direction are permitted provided they do not cross the long axis"
https://imgur.com/a/i1yn8b3
I assume you know about this rule, im just putting it here if people don't know about the rule. For those who don't know about this rule (for the rythm dance), here is a simplified explanation. If you cross the red line, you can't cross the red line again until you cross the blue line. If you cross the blue line, you can't cross it again until you cross the red line. And you can only loop around once in each quadrant.
After, in review they must have determined the first attempt wasn't meeting the criteria to be called as an attempt (I.e. they didn't break the centreline rule), so it was considered safe. Or if its an NHL rink, the rule doesnt really apply like this. But it's an easy mistake to make with the way their program was choreographed at the start.
to be fair, the costumes look much better in real life - the colour of Lewis's suit looks beige on screen, but in real life, more purple/plum. He could do with a medallion for a real 1970s effect, though......
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no he blew it at the camera
he must have known you were watching!no he blew it at the camera
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Can I just say, I don't understand this year's RD theme, and the skaters sure as hell don't either?
At least in terms if music cuts and costumes they where all over the place.
No idea who thought the C/B medley was a good idea. Also, he looks like a flight attendant.
Lilah and Lewis do what they usually do, but I like them. They just have such great energy.
The least said about Eteri's daughter, the better. The scoring was egregious.
Not sure about the Mrazek's costumes. I'm no Beatles expert, but that did not look 60s inspired at all.
Olivia Smart wins the most powerful partner contest again.
At least in terms if music cuts and costumes they where all over the place.
No idea who thought the C/B medley was a good idea. Also, he looks like a flight attendant.
Lilah and Lewis do what they usually do, but I like them. They just have such great energy.
The least said about Eteri's daughter, the better. The scoring was egregious.
Not sure about the Mrazek's costumes. I'm no Beatles expert, but that did not look 60s inspired at all.
Olivia Smart wins the most powerful partner contest again.
The synchro cartwheels are spectacular.
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