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Ladies LP

Ok now I've seen all.

I don't think Rochette was better than Asada.

Leonova was new name for the future.

Seems I'm the only one that didn't like Yu-Na performance. Steps were awkward and she look really angry when she skates. Where is the display of feelings in her face and her motions.

I was surprised and pleased Miki was so good. Miki deserves second but Asada should have gotten third.
 
Ok now I've seen all.

I don't think Rochette was better than Asada.

Leonova was new name for the future.

Seems I'm the only one that didn't like Yu-Na performance. Steps were awkward and she look really angry when she skates. Where is the display of feelings in her face and her motions.

I was surprised and pleased Miki was so good. Miki deserves second but Asada should have gotten third.

Some of Asada's jumps were clearly underrotated and fairly obvious as well. This is a mistake than can be hard to see which can make it difficult for the casual viewer (not trying to imply that you are!) to understand the lower marks. I'm not an Asada fan, but thought there was something missing from her performances. It seemed like Asada the skater was there but Asada the performer wasn't.
 
Yea apparently she got lower marks but I mean I think Asada's performance as whole more appealing to me than Rochette's. This system is almost rooting for robotic like element performance. That's the difference with Asada and Yu-Na. Ah well I guess some will call Asada robotic too. But IMO Asada more softer and elegant.
 
Some of Asada's jumps were clearly underrotated and fairly obvious as well. This is a mistake than can be hard to see which can make it difficult for the casual viewer (not trying to imply that you are!) to understand the lower marks. I'm not an Asada fan, but thought there was something missing from her performances. It seemed like Asada the skater was there but Asada the performer wasn't.

Actually, it's more PCS where Asada lost. I'm quite sure she would have gotten higher marks if she'd skated later in a group.
But maybe it's just me...I really like Mao's Masquerade, whereas most of people seem to dislike it a lot.
 
yea apparently she got lower marks but i mean i think asada's performance as whole more appealing to me than rochette's. This system is almost rooting for robotic like element performance. That's the difference with asada and yu-na. Ah well i guess some will call asada robotic too. But imo asada more softer and elegant.

My thoughts!
 
Actually, it's more PCS where Asada lost. I'm quite sure she would have gotten higher marks if she'd skated later in a group.
But maybe it's just me...I really like Mao's Masquerade, whereas most of people seem to dislike it a lot.

I don't think so. I felt like the spark wasn't there. She looked a bit tight and nervous to me. But again, not a Mao fan. Never have been, I doubt I ever will be. I see more personality and passion coming from Miss Kim.
 
Since 2007 Miki, Mao and Kim. Things have shifted from USA to Asia since Kimmie Meissner.

I actually thought Kimmie would be a gold contender for many years to come in 2006. Also miss Sasha Cohen.
 
Kim is of course the deserved winner. But I don't know what the judges are getting at with those huge PCS scores. There was a very obvious mistake in that program, but the PCS she got were like "6.0" in presentation. And the next time she doesn't get those huge scores she got for PCS in the long program - she will give a nasty interview that she doesn't understand why they gave her so much at worlds and less this time? It's what happened with Chan, and after thinking about it for a few days - the question is what were the judges thinking, giving him about 80 the entire season, except for the sudden 89 at 4CC?

I don't get Asada's very low PCS. Her mistake was a bit more obvious, but in the end she and Kim landed about the same: Asada a 3A, two 3F, a 3T and a 3R. Kim landed a 3F, two 3Lz and two 3T. Plus Asada has better spins and better extension, that should count for something.

Rochette was lucky to be placed above Miki, but it was the short program - so I guess it can happen. But she was tentative and her jumps didn't have the usual quality.

Miki Ando, the skate of the night! :rock: Too bad about the downgrade on the Triple Loop, otherwise the silver would have been hers for sure. I am happy that she got a standing ovations, what a way to get back into the Top Three! She must have visited a spin doctor, I mean, nothing shaky about the spins this time, nice positions - what an improvement. Spiral sequence still mediocre though, I guess she probably begs the PTB every day that they will make the spiral sequence optional (so that ladies could do a second step sequence). And she is the most beautiful lady out there. I think I am going to make my first ladies' banner ever!

Lepistö was gifted, if you have only 3 consistent Triples, please land them all. But she never does it. Landed the Lutz though, which is kind of ironic. Incredible skating quality though, amazing posture - she looks as if she is always aware of every fiber of her body.

No hidden Czechs this time, only hidden Italians. But I think it was actually worse than Verner last year.

Leonova! Great make-over, she looks lovely. In the end it was the least enthusiastic skate she has had this season, but it was still charming and technically solid. I guess she and her coach were a bit overwhelmed by her success this season themselves. So I hope she goes home, works a bit on polishing the elements, improving the spins. Has a few talks with Slutskaya. She might even want to consider a 3-3, the 3F looks very solid for her and she has good flow out of it.

Incredible happy for Elene, what an improvement! Missing the long program at Euros just 2 months ago, now Top Ten at Worlds. I love her skating, so much personality, great spins... Also happy for Sarah, even saving 2 spots for Switzerland after all those injuries.

One last thing, both Kim and Flatt didn't have their last spin counted. Also too many revolutions on another spin at some point, or is there another reason?
 
I don't think so. I felt like the spark wasn't there. She looked a bit tight and nervous to me. But again, not a Mao fan. Never have been, I doubt I ever will be. I see more personality and passion coming from Miss Kim.

Agree I think Mao was nervous too. But I give her credit for yet again follow through in a big way after a fall like she did 2008.

Seriously I see no passion in Kim. And Im Korean myself.
 
I am so glad that Miki finished on the podium. I didn't see it yet - Eurosport telvises it as replay on Sunday evening - but she must have had a great skate. Can't wait to see it. :)
 
Yuna - Wow what a skate! She did not have that wow factor for me but none the less a well deserved world title:clap:

Joannie - glad she didn't give up, artistry was great:thumbsup:

Mikki - After last years worlds I am so happy she made it back on the podium, program was lacking in artistry, but wow on the jumps:rock:

Mao - great opening triple axel combo and way to stick with it after the fall, she knew she was going to have to pull it all out and she went for it:)

Rachel- couldn't have asked for a better placement and a great program:biggrin:

Carolina - there are just no words:disapp:

Wish i got to see Alissa skate:scowl:

Hope Michelle decides to come back:love: she looked awesome
 
One last thing, both Kim and Flatt didn't have their last spin counted. Also too many revolutions on another spin at some point, or is there another reason?

I don't know for Kim. But Tom Z. said they didn't think of revising the rules when Rachael went back to last year's program. Apparently her last spin didn't have a change of foot, I can't remember but they said so at IN. NOt sure if that's reliable.
 
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I think Lepisto got the benefit of skating last. Also in the SP she was one of the last skaters, wasn't she?

I would have had

5. Leonova
6. Suguri
7. Flatt
8. Lepisto

I could see a small case for Ando ahead of Rochette, but close; no "wuzrobbing" about it. I did think their SP scores could have been closer together, which might have tipped things. Asada deserved 4th on the whole in this competition, shocking as that is, though again close. Joannie did have better transitions and choreo, definitely the best "program", and this aspect was for once marked accordingly. Mao by comparison telegraphed a fair number of jumps, and not all landings were that smooth either.

I'm going to have to rewatch all of this though, to confirm my impressions.

My favourite program of this whole competition was Miki Ando's SP!
One thing I noticed about her is that her posture is not nearly as good as the other top ladies, but in this program it does not bother me at all, in fact somehow adds more drama to her expression (don't know how intentional that is, lol)
 
Btw, I thought the judging was really good last night. Some small questionable things but nothing major. Good job, IMO.
 
I don't think Joannie beating Mao on PCS was undeserved. This year, Mao's long program does really nothing for her. And it's choregraphically empty. I don't think she really feels that particular piece of music either.

Just because someone has the potential to be better in the PCS department and has been better in the past, doesn't mean they are better at that peformance.

Mao is putting way to many eggs in the 3 axel basket. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling her base value was higher last year when she was attempting one 3axel and 2 3/3's. Mao needs to rediscover the 3/3, to be quite frank, she didn't even attempt one in the long program, she hasn't made a real credible attempt of one in the long this year... (sigh)
 
I don't think Joannie beating Mao on PCS was undeserved. This year, Mao's long program does really nothing for her. And it's choregraphically empty. I don't think she really feels that particular piece of music either.

Just because someone has the potential to be better in the PCS department and has been better in the past, doesn't mean they are better at that peformance.

Mao is putting way to many eggs in the 3 axel basket. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling her base value was higher last year when she was attempting one 3axel and 2 3/3's. Mao needs to rediscover the 3/3, to be quite frank, she didn't even attempt one in the long program, she hasn't made a real credible attempt of one in the long this year... (sigh)

Or... 2 3A & 2 3-3. It's possible. I don't get why YuNa KiM doesn't put 3lz-3t =x
 
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