KS777, Good Job!!!! You must have a crystal ball!!
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KS777, Good Job!!!! You must have a crystal ball!!
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I was thinking the same thing. Some kind of strange pattern going on. I bet Yuna win not go to 2010 world for sure regardless of if she win the gold or not.
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Just few words...
I'm really happy for Yuna Kim. Her performance was amazing and I think she fully deserved the score that she got. Maybe the score is a little bit higher than it should usually be, but I got the impression that judges were generous to everyone, so it's fairly.
When she cried while staying at the podium... that was the most touching moment I have ever seen. I'm sure, everything will be all right for her and we'll see even more awesomeness from her in the future.
Sadly, Mao is off the podium. Everyone was like it's "Yuna vs Mao" battle, which it never have been, because they are not enemies at all and there were a lot of other great skaters besides Yuna and Mao, like Miki Ando, Joannie, etc. Actually, I'm not really surprised that Miki is 3rd.
It looks like next season will be very interesting. I'm sure that Yuna will show something amazing, but Mao will return too, and she'll be stronger... and others... really you never know what will come, so I'm expecting some really interesting events in the future. I'll be looking forward to them.
I'm really happy for Yuna Kim. Her performance was amazing and I think she fully deserved the score that she got. Maybe the score is a little bit higher than it should usually be, but I got the impression that judges were generous to everyone, so it's fairly.
When she cried while staying at the podium... that was the most touching moment I have ever seen. I'm sure, everything will be all right for her and we'll see even more awesomeness from her in the future.
Sadly, Mao is off the podium. Everyone was like it's "Yuna vs Mao" battle, which it never have been, because they are not enemies at all and there were a lot of other great skaters besides Yuna and Mao, like Miki Ando, Joannie, etc. Actually, I'm not really surprised that Miki is 3rd.
It looks like next season will be very interesting. I'm sure that Yuna will show something amazing, but Mao will return too, and she'll be stronger... and others... really you never know what will come, so I'm expecting some really interesting events in the future. I'll be looking forward to them.
Congratulations to Flatt and Leonova for rocking their first Worlds. Leonova has got to be a favorite for the European title next year at this point.
I love Alissa and all, but even though we can't say for sure, it does seem more likely that Zhang would've secured three spots, especially coming off of her excellent 4CC performance. I didn't think it was really a possibility at all coming into this but Rachel really proved me wrong.
And what was up with Carolina's PCs? Yeah, I know she fell to 12th (15th in the LP!) but seriously that was the worst skate by a top level competitor all season long. That would've been a bad skate at the junior level. Mid 7s? One judge giving her high 8s? Really?
I love Alissa and all, but even though we can't say for sure, it does seem more likely that Zhang would've secured three spots, especially coming off of her excellent 4CC performance. I didn't think it was really a possibility at all coming into this but Rachel really proved me wrong.
And what was up with Carolina's PCs? Yeah, I know she fell to 12th (15th in the LP!) but seriously that was the worst skate by a top level competitor all season long. That would've been a bad skate at the junior level. Mid 7s? One judge giving her high 8s? Really?
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There is a 20% chance that Mao will have to compete against Yuna before final. Since Miki is the Bronze medalist, Japan will sure select her as one the top three seeded skater and Mao will sure to be selected as one of the skater from 4-6 place finisher. Mao has 40% each to compete against either Yuna or Rochett as well.
My prediction since this year GP series will be in reverse order starting from NHK to SA.
NHK - Miki, Asada,
COR - Rochett, Lepisto
TEB - Miki, Lepisto
COC - Kim, Asada or Flatt?
SC - Rochett, Asada or Flatt?
SA - Kim, Flatt
Actually, judging by history, it isn't. Not since Tara Lipinski has the reigning world champ gone on to win the Olympics.
Why the change in order? Will they change it back afterward?
Men get an extra 25% bonus multiplier (compared to ladies) on their PCSs. If Kim had skated in the men's eent, elevating her PCSs by 25% to be consistent with men's scoring, she would have scored 236.44.
Darn, she just missed the podium in fourth place.
But wait -- the men get 8 jumping passes instead of 7. So it all comes down to what Kim does with her eighth jumping pass. If she does a simple 2A, this brings her up to 236.94 and she gets the bronze, ahead of Joubert.
If she could manage another triple flip instead of the 2A, now she has 237.94. She gets silver ahead of Chan.
Can she get gold? She would need something like an extra 3Lz+3T to bring her up to 242.94 and beat Lysacek. This is probably a little bit unrealistic, so Kim probably has to settle for silver or bronze.
Oh well, there is always next year!
Ah I love it. Thank you Mathman
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This was definitetly a wake up call for Mao and her team. Mao needs a full time technical coach! Her programs this year didn't show case her strength at all.
Her SP was badly choregraphed and the music didn't suite her at all. Her LP.. there isn't really any choregraphy at all. Bad choice of music too.
She needs a tech coach that can give her more confidence with her jumps. I thought Mao was magical when she was with Artunian.
I was so happy for Miki! I know she still lacks in betweens moves and hope she will really work on that. If anyone can make a big upset at Olymics, it would be Miki. She has the jumps(she has 5 solid triples). I think she should go for a 3lutz/3toe in SP as well as LP. I think she is capable after seeing her do a 2axel/3toe.
She really needs to work on her posture and put more in between moves, I hope Miki is reading this board!
I am so happy for Yuna!! She totally deserved everything she got. I didn't think her PCS were too high. She was just so awesome! She really feels the music and her SP and LP were just gorgeous. I am so happy for Yuna and Orser!! I can't wait for her to release a debut album!! I love her voice too.
Her SP was badly choregraphed and the music didn't suite her at all. Her LP.. there isn't really any choregraphy at all. Bad choice of music too.
She needs a tech coach that can give her more confidence with her jumps. I thought Mao was magical when she was with Artunian.
I was so happy for Miki! I know she still lacks in betweens moves and hope she will really work on that. If anyone can make a big upset at Olymics, it would be Miki. She has the jumps(she has 5 solid triples). I think she should go for a 3lutz/3toe in SP as well as LP. I think she is capable after seeing her do a 2axel/3toe.
She really needs to work on her posture and put more in between moves, I hope Miki is reading this board!
I am so happy for Yuna!! She totally deserved everything she got. I didn't think her PCS were too high. She was just so awesome! She really feels the music and her SP and LP were just gorgeous. I am so happy for Yuna and Orser!! I can't wait for her to release a debut album!! I love her voice too.
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Felt bad for Mao but this should be her wake-up call for her that she needs 2 3-Axel to replace her lutz if she doesn't do that then the numbers just doesn't hold up, especially if she's against a consistent 3/3 jumper like Yu-na.
In short Mao needs her lutz, and a 3/3 to contend for the title or else she's left very vulnerable points wise from the other top skaters.
In short Mao needs her lutz, and a 3/3 to contend for the title or else she's left very vulnerable points wise from the other top skaters.
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ooo, yeah, two olympics for the ladies
compared to how many for the men? (not since Scott Hamilton has the World Champ going into the olympics won the dang thing... and some didn't even hit the podium... ok, well, only *one* did that)
I'd worry more for Evan and the real curse... as opposed to Kim and the kinda-curse
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Evan should just be thankful he's not Canadian as it's worse for them!
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well considering we don't hit the podium as often... 
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I don't know this for sure, but I think the reason for the change was that NBC television wanted Skate America closer to the Olympics so they could better co-ordinate it with their Olympic coverage. This might go for Canada, too.
I don't know what plans the ISU has after next year.
Well, I don't see late October vs early November being much of a difference. Besides, on their website I don't notice a change of schedule (to allow for more TV coverage, for example). Still Free Dance/Ladies FS Sunday afternoon.
http://www.skateamerica2009.com/
Guess we'll have to find out.
She had 5 triples in the LP. NO WAY that score was fair. IMO her SP was also overscored but in the long run scores are place holders and she was easily the winner of this competition. No one came close to her.
I am very proud of Rachael Flatt's performance, thought Fumie was dinged pretty hard overall and personally feel Joannie making the podium with that LP (Not to mention only a triple double in the SP. Score wise) was suspect. Even with Mao losing points for some questionable jumps.
I don't agree Alissa's PCS were to low at all. I didn't count the triples but I read somewhere that she only had 3 triples. Not that this has anything to do with PCS but when you struggle on the jumps it takes so much away from the performance. Alissa's spinning ability held her up. Her SP was way to high for all the mistakes she made also.
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Woah, that's impressive. I've made official predictions before, but they never seemed to work out the way I planned so I banned myself from making official podium predictions. How did you figure Mao would end up fourth? Because I would have never made a prediction like that, nor will I ever in the future, even if she did end up fourth at this Worlds.
I was reading a live chat during the ladies LP moderated by David Long, a Canadian coach and Skate Canada technical specialist and he predicted over 130 for Yu-Na's LP before the scores came out. I don't think it was impossible or such an inflated score for Yu-Na to get 131.59
I want to give a belated congratulations to Rachael. She certainly delivered for the U.S. women. And people are going to roll their heads and be annoyed by this, but for frick's sake Alissa! The SP was a disaster as many predicted and even her LP wasn't that special. It was special for Alissa's standards because she stayed on her feet, but compared to the rest of the top ladies, it was just okay. Yes, I'm going to say it, the Z word. Zhang could have and probably would have secured that third spot.
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Well, anyway, overall she would go beyond 200. Then if it's 207 or 205 points it's not important really.
The points are not all about jumps, there are step sequences and artistry as well. She had some errors and she got deductions for them. 0 points for one of the spirals is also there.
Well, anyway, overall she would go beyond 200. Then if it's 207 or 205 points it's not important really.
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